From: "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...>
Date: 2013-04-19T04:21:25+09:00
Subject: [ruby-core:54440] Re: An evaluation of 2.0.0 release

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2013/4/1 D. Deryl Downey <me@daviddwdowney.com>

> I'm definitely not trying to ne a jerk here. However, I do feel the need
> to ask, did people somehow NOT expect to have to make significant changes,
> nor expect there would be significant challenges going forward from 1.9 to
> 2.0?
>
> Please tell me I'm just in a dark mood and so just reading a negative vibe
> into the comments so far. Matz and others did say there were going to be a
> great many changes made, with some incompatiblities.
>
> Am I misreading a listing of what people have run into as a list of
> complaints against the changes needed to deal with a Major version rollout?
>
> I'm seriously asking because I'm known for assuming whining where folks
> are merely enumerating issues they've run into.
>
We of course know compatibility is import, but also think we should change
even if it cause incompatibility.
When we introduce incompatibility, we must sure the value brought by the
change is larger than the negative of it.
Previews Releases are released to measure such comparison.
If you think you are a contributor, please say "The incompatibility makes
me sad!!!".
We'll withdraw incompatibilities if such voice is large.

In addition, I sometimes make other committer's proposal withdrawn by such
objection.

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NARUSE, Yui  <naruse@airemix.jp>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">2013/4/1 D. Deryl Downey <span =
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e@daviddwdowney.com</a>&gt;</span><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
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<p>I&#39;m definitely not trying to ne a jerk here. However, I do feel the =
need to ask, did people somehow NOT expect to have to make significant chan=
ges, nor expect there would be significant challenges going forward from 1.=
9 to 2.0?</p>



<p>Please tell me I&#39;m just in a dark mood and so just reading a negativ=
e vibe into the comments so far. Matz and others did say there were going t=
o be a great many changes made, with some incompatiblities. </p>
<p>Am I misreading a listing of what people have run into as a list of comp=
laints against the changes needed to deal with a Major version rollout?</p>
<p>I&#39;m seriously asking because I&#39;m known for assuming whining wher=
e folks are merely enumerating issues they&#39;ve run into.</p>
</blockquote></div>We of course know compatibility is import, but also thin=
k we should change even if it cause=A0incompatibility.<br>When we introduce=
 incompatibility, we must sure the value brought by the change is larger th=
an the negative of it.</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_extra">Previews Releases are released to measure such c=
omparison.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">If you think you are a contribut=
or, please say &quot;The=A0incompatibility makes me sad!!!&quot;.</div><div=
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We&#39;ll withdraw incompatibilities if such voice is large.</div><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">In addition, I somet=
imes make other=A0committer&#39;s=A0proposal withdrawn by such objection.<b=
r clear=3D"all">

<div><br></div>-- <br>NARUSE, Yui =A0&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:naruse@airemix.j=
p" target=3D"_blank">naruse@airemix.jp</a>&gt;
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