[#53944] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8210][Open] Multibyte character interfering with end-line character within a regex — "sawa (Tsuyoshi Sawada)" <sawadatsuyoshi@...>

14 messages 2013/04/03

[#53974] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8215][Open] Support accessing Fiber-locals and backtraces for a Fiber — "halorgium (Tim Carey-Smith)" <ruby-lang-bugs@...>

14 messages 2013/04/03

[#54095] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8237][Open] Logical method chaining via inferred receiver — "wardrop (Tom Wardrop)" <tom@...>

34 messages 2013/04/08

[#54138] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8241][Open] If uri host-part has underscore ( '_' ), 'URI#parse' raise 'URI::InvalidURIError' — "neocoin (Sangmin Ryu)" <neocoin@...>

9 messages 2013/04/09

[#54185] [CommonRuby - Feature #8257][Open] Exception#cause to carry originating exception along with new one — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

43 messages 2013/04/11

[#54196] Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...>

I think we need to do more to encourage the use of the CommonRuby

20 messages 2013/04/11
[#54200] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Marc-Andre Lafortune <ruby-core-mailing-list@...> 2013/04/11

Hi,

[#54211] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — "NARUSE, Yui" <naruse@...> 2013/04/12

As far as I understand, what is CommonRuby and the process over CommonRuby

[#54215] Re: Encouraging use of CommonRuby — Charles Oliver Nutter <headius@...> 2013/04/12

On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 at 11:25 PM, NARUSE, Yui <naruse@airemix.jp> wrote:

[#54207] [CommonRuby - Feature #8258][Open] Dir#escape_glob — "steveklabnik (Steve Klabnik)" <steve@...>

15 messages 2013/04/12

[#54218] [CommonRuby - Feature #8259][Open] Atomic attributes accessors — "funny_falcon (Yura Sokolov)" <funny.falcon@...>

43 messages 2013/04/12

[#54288] [CommonRuby - Feature #8271][Open] Proposal for moving to a more visible, formal process for feature requests — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <headius@...>

15 messages 2013/04/15

[#54333] Requesting Commit Access — Aman Gupta <ruby@...1.net>

Hello ruby-core,

16 messages 2013/04/16

[#54473] [Backport 200 - Backport #8299][Open] Minor error in float parsing — "bobjalex (Bob Alexander)" <bobjalex@...>

27 messages 2013/04/19

[#54532] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8315][Open] mkmf does not include include paths from pkg_config anymore — "Hanmac (Hans Mackowiak)" <hanmac@...>

11 messages 2013/04/23

[#54621] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "ko1 (Koichi Sasada)" <redmine@...>

43 messages 2013/04/27
[#54643] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — "authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura)" <authorNari@...> 2013/04/28

[#54649] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...> 2013/04/28

(2013/04/28 9:23), authorNari (Narihiro Nakamura) wrote:

[#54657] Re: [ruby-trunk - Feature #8339][Open] Introducing Geneartional Garbage Collection for CRuby/MRI — Magnus Holm <judofyr@...> 2013/04/28

On Sat, Apr 27, 2013 at 8:19 PM, ko1 (Koichi Sasada)

[#54665] [ruby-trunk - Bug #8344][Open] Status of Psych and Syck — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze)" <redmine@...>

18 messages 2013/04/28

[ruby-core:54110] [ruby-trunk - Feature #8191] Short-hand syntax for duck-typing

From: "rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas)" <rr.rosas@...>
Date: 2013-04-08 15:47:15 UTC
List: ruby-core #54110
Issue #8191 has been updated by rosenfeld (Rodrigo Rosenfeld Rosas).


Sorry, I'm a bit outdated, since I never really felt the need for method_missing in my own code :)
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Feature #8191: Short-hand syntax for duck-typing
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/8191#change-38361

Author: wardrop (Tom Wardrop)
Status: Assigned
Priority: Normal
Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
Category: 
Target version: 


=begin
As a duck-typed language, Ruby doesn't provide any succinct way of safely calling a potentially non-existant method. I often find myself doing (({obj.respond_to? :empty ? obj.empty : nil})), or if I'm feeling lazy, (({obj.empty? rescue nil})). Surely we can provide a less repetitive way of achieving duck-typing, e.g. I don't care what object you are, but if you (the object) can't tell me whether you're empty, I'm going to assume some value, or do something else instead.

I'm not sure what the best way to implement this is. The easiest would be to just define a new conditional send method:

    obj.send_if(:empty?, *args) { nil }

    obj.try(:empty?, *args) { nil }

But that's really not much of an improvement; it's ugly. Preferably, it'd be nice to build it into the language given how fundamental duck-typing is to Ruby. One potential syntax is:

   obj.empty? otherwise nil

The ((|otherwise|)) keyword would be like a logical or, but instead of short-circuiting on true, it short-circuits on some other condition. That condition can be one of two things. It can either wait for a NoMethodError (like an implicit (({rescue NoMethodError}))), proceeding to the next expression if one is raised, or it can do a pre-test using (({respond_to?})). Each option has its pro's and con's.

The implicit rescue allows you to include expressions, e.g. 

    obj.empty? otherwise obj.length == 0 otherwise true

Going with the implicit (({respond_to?})) implementation probably wouldn't allow that. You'd instead need to limit it just to method calls, which is not as useful. The only problem with implicitly rescuing NoMethodError's though, is that you'd need to ensure the NoMethodError was raised within the target object, and not some dependancy, as you could potentially swallow valid exceptions.

The benefit of this over current methods of duck-typing, is that you're not testing a condition, then running an action, you're instead doing both at the same time making it much more DRY.

One other potential syntax however is a double question mark, or question mark prefix. This could act as an implicit (({respond_to?})) pre-condition, returning nil if the method doesn't exist.

    obj.empty??? || obj.length?? == 0 || nil

    obj.?empty? || obj.?length == 0 || nil

I'm not completely satisfied with either syntax, so at this point I'm merely hoping to start a discussion. 

Thoughts?
=end


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