From: Zeno Davatz Date: 2011-01-23T05:18:05+09:00 Subject: [ruby-core:34794] [Ruby 1.8-Feature#4239] Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for surviving 1.8? Issue #4239 has been updated by Zeno Davatz. Dear Rodrigo Me to, I think it is good if Ruby would change to Git. Dear Cezary I think modularity of Micro-Kernels is _not_ good. I believe in the Monolithic approach of the Linux Kernel. I do not know if you understood what I mean by that. But you can search for the Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate ;) - you know what side I am on. There is no big success story of a Micro-Kernel. Why do we have to Switch to Ruby 1.9? Good question. There is not a reason per se. Just that a lot of people like to say: "Switch to Ruby 1.9, it is great". Well I can not yet confirm that, as it still breaks _too_ many important things for us. Switching to Ruby 1.9.2 at the moment would be because of hear-say. I see no hard-facts for myself at the moment (stability and speed of our App in 1.8.6 was very hard earned for us). And then again, switching because we use Ruby is a reason per se. Why do I like to upgrade my Kernel with every RC-Release? Well because it is a lot of fun to do it! It is fun to catch Linus in a moment of despair ;) where my Kernel panics at boot. It is fun because it almost never happens. And because it almost never happens I get more time to test the really _new_ features in every RC-Release. It is an adventure with a guiding hand. What I would like to know is why Engine Yard wants to stick with 1.8.6 as Yui-san says. Dear Eric There can be other ways of measuring the success and the importance of a gem for the Ruby Eco-System. That is just a proposal. I admit every fault that is a fault. I am not perfect, actually quite the opposite. But I do have an opinion. I think there should be some kind of system that manages the dependency between Ruby versions and gems. But it needs to do so in a practical way. I will think some more about that. Best Zeno ---------------------------------------- http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4239 ---------------------------------------- http://redmine.ruby-lang.org