From: Yusuke ENDOH Date: 2011-01-14T18:42:15+09:00 Subject: [ruby-core:34493] Re: proposal: gem_prelude needs to die Hi, 2011/1/14 Ryan Davis : > > On Jan 13, 2011, at 07:24 , Tanaka Akira wrote: > >> Apart from that, I'm afraid startup cost. > > Not being able to upgrade is a far bigger problem than startup cost. Even so, this is TOO SLOW! $ time ./ruby --disable-gems -ve '' ruby 1.9.3dev (2011-01-14 trunk 30544) [i686-linux] real 0m0.017s user 0m0.012s sys 0m0.004s $ time ./ruby -ve '' ruby 1.9.3dev (2011-01-14 trunk 30544) [i686-linux] real 0m0.127s user 0m0.120s sys 0m0.008s > We can address any remaining startup costs in rubygems directly. This should be done first. I really like scala, but I couldn't live with its startup slowness. Please don't make ruby scala. -- Yusuke Endoh