From: Zeno Davatz Date: 2011-01-12T17:14:47+09:00 Subject: [ruby-core:34415] [Ruby 1.8-Feature#4239] Let's begin a talk for "1.8.8" -- How's needed for surviving 1.8? Issue #4239 has been updated by Zeno Davatz. Dear Eric Thanks for your reply. 01/11/2011 08:15 PM - reply to Eric Hodel So why was the Oniguruma-Patch never applied to 1.8.7 or 1.8.6 but then "some" functions of Oniguruma where copied to 1.9.2 but just "some". It seems that you really do not use regular expressions. We do use regular expressions in our own code because we have to parse lots of data (PDF files, XLS files, Wordfiles, XML files, etc.) and we have to detect patterns because that is what Ruby is good at. We really need regular expression as does Michael Fellinger. And Fellinger got burned. Read the post I linked above http://url.ba/00z0 So what do you suggest, just wait until Ruby 1.9.2 covers all the features 1.8.6 with Oniguruma does? That patch is one great Patch. It should have been applied from the very beginning. Instead in the Fellinger Post Yui Naruse says that it was never the intention to copy all the functions of the Oniguruma-Patch. Here comes one guy that writes a great patch for Ruby and then he is ignored, well at least partially. Maybe you can point me to a discussion where the decision was taken, that the Oniguruma Patch should not be applied to 1.8.6 or 1.8.7. I would be very interested to read more about that decision. What I am trying to say is that Ruby 1.9.2 should be moved closer to 1.8.6 via 1.8.8. That gap has to be narrowed so people do not fall into the crevasse, walking on the glacier. At the moment switching to Ruby 1.9.2 feels a bit like Russian Roulette ;) some fun, some adventure. Well I would prefer if it would be a grandma game. Russian Roulette should be played in 2.0. I think it is very telling if Yui Naruse says Ruby 1.8.6 has become to stable. That is what 1.9.2 should become in the future but with more features and more options. To smoothen that transition you need a pole in the middle that should be 1.8.8. Just help the Grandma over the crevasse please. And there are lots of grandmothers out there. More then you think there are. Best Zeno ---------------------------------------- http://redmine.ruby-lang.org/issues/show/4239 ---------------------------------------- http://redmine.ruby-lang.org