From: Aaron Patterson <aaron@...>
Date: 2011-01-06T07:47:23+09:00
Subject: [ruby-core:34136] Re: The rights of ruby-core people and Myth of ruby-dev


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On Wed, Jan 05, 2011 at 01:01:48PM +0900, Urabe Shyouhei wrote:
> (2011/01/05 3:57), Aaron Patterson wrote:
> > Why is #ruby:*.jp hosted on irc.ircnet.ne.jp?  Even if English speakers
> > cannot participate in the IRC channel, it would be nice to at least
> > watch.
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> Because the channel is a de facto.
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> > I know the password for the IRC server is freely available, but the only
> > website I've seen with the password listed is in Japanese.  Could this
> > channel move to freenode?
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> Difficult in several reasons:
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> 1) People in the channel don't even subscribe this mailing list or if the=
y do,
> at least they did not read your mail.  So they don't know your proposal. =
 I've
> double-checked my IRC log.  They don't.
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> 2) There are no advantages for them to move.  It's technically impossible=
 to
> force them move, so we have to ask them.  But they have no reason to resp=
ond that.
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> I think the most effective way to kill the IRC channel is to ignore every=
thing
> related to it.  Just like a spam mail.

Killing an IRC channel really isn't my point.  My point is to foster
more / better communication among the ruby-core team.  Each type of
communication has advantages and disadvantages.  We must choose the
appropriate communication channel depending on the problem to solve.

Should the mailing list be the only way core team members communicate?

The ruby-core team are my coworkers, and sometimes I like to talk to my
coworkers outside of mailing lists.  If it improves communication among
members, here is my contact info:

  skype:   tenderlovemaking
  GTalk:   aaron.patterson@gmail.com
  AIM:     tenderlovemaking
  IRC:     tenderlove
  Twitter: @tenderlove
  Phone:   1-206-651-4359

Anyone on ruby core team, feel free to add me.

I think in general, the more we communicate with each other, the better.
But it's also up to us to determine when we should move conversations to
important places like ruby-core.  (Conversations like [ruby-dev:42894]
may be good to move here :-P )

<3 <3 <3 <3 <3

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Aaron Patterson
http://tenderlovemaking.com/

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