From: george.marrows@... Date: 2003-12-02T03:28:24+09:00 Subject: Re: Ruby2 RCR (was Re: Constants, class variables and the cbase f ield) > I'm sick of proposals that sounds like "hey, matz, I'm a Ruby newbie; > thank you for the language; by the way, Ruby's design here is not in > Ruby-way; it should be fixed somehow; I don't know how, because I'm a > newbie; but *you* should fix". Sigh, don't preach me Ruby way. > > Sorry if I offend you, George. I don't mean yours was one of them. > But I want concrete proposal, its rationale, and effect estimate of > the change. They are what I want to see in the Ruby2 RCR. Matz -- sincere apologies for exasperating you. It wasn't ever my intention to preach to you on the topic of Ruby. A specific technical question snowballed into wider musings, which in their highly unformed state I should probably have kept to myself. Along the way I unfortunately picked up on your use of the phrase 'Ruby-way' and used it myself over-glibly. Anyway, I will try to produce the concrete proposal you asked for. One final thing though - I certainly never asked for anyone to fix it. I wouldn't know how to in standard Ruby, but I *would* know how in ByteCodeRuby :-) -- George