[#15707] Schedule for the 1.8.7 release — "Akinori MUSHA" <knu@...>

Hi, developers,

21 messages 2008/03/01

[#15740] Copy-on-write friendly garbage collector — Hongli Lai <hongli@...99.net>

Hi.

31 messages 2008/03/03
[#15742] Re: Copy-on-write friendly garbage collector — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/03

Hi,

[#15829] Re: Copy-on-write friendly garbage collector — Daniel DeLorme <dan-ml@...42.com> 2008/03/08

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#15756] embedding Ruby 1.9.0 inside pthread — "Suraj Kurapati" <sunaku@...>

Hello,

18 messages 2008/03/03
[#15759] Re: embedding Ruby 1.9.0 inside pthread — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2008/03/04

Hi,

[#15760] Re: embedding Ruby 1.9.0 inside pthread — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/04

Hi,

[#15762] Re: embedding Ruby 1.9.0 inside pthread — "Suraj N. Kurapati" <sunaku@...> 2008/03/04

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#15783] Adding startup and shutdown to Test::Unit — Daniel Berger <Daniel.Berger@...>

Hi all,

15 messages 2008/03/04

[#15835] TimeoutError in core, timeouts for ConditionVariable#wait — MenTaLguY <mental@...>

I've been reworking JRuby's stdlib to improve performance and fix

10 messages 2008/03/09

[#15990] Recent changes in Range#step behavior — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...>

Hi,

35 messages 2008/03/23
[#15991] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/23

[#15993] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/03/23

Hi Dave,

[#15997] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/23

[#16024] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/03/26

Hi Dave,

[#16025] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/26

Hi,

[#16026] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/26

[#16027] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/26

Hi,

[#16029] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/26

[#16030] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2008/03/26

Hi,

[#16031] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/26

[#16032] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — "Vladimir Sizikov" <vsizikov@...> 2008/03/26

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 7:01 PM, Dave Thomas <dave@pragprog.com> wrote:

[#16033] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — Dave Thomas <dave@...> 2008/03/26

[#16041] Re: Recent changes in Range#step behavior — David Flanagan <david@...> 2008/03/26

Dave Thomas wrote:

Re: Copy-on-write friendly garbage collector

From: Joel VanderWerf <vjoel@...>
Date: 2008-03-14 17:34:22 UTC
List: ruby-core #15904
Hongli Lai wrote:
> Daniel Berger wrote:
>> I recommend against this. Most people are simply not going to know
>> when they should invoke it and when they shouldn't. It's an
>> implementation detail that should be hidden from the user IMHO.
>> Besides, it really worth splitting it out like this over a 5% speed
>> hit? Or am I missing some other implementation detail?
> 
> Apparently people care about even a 5% speed hit, or we wouldn't still 
> be discussing this.

I can certainly see a need for this as an _option_, even if it does cost 5%.

IIUC, it would make a difference if your main process (say, an in-memory 
database, or a large simulation) constructed a big set of objects. Then 
you want to fork to generate some graphs from the simulation or perform 
a search of the database. Currently, the best solution is GC.disable (in 
the fork), but that's not good if the fork needs to live a while (and 
the parent will eventually GC anyway).

The 5% cost is much less than the cost of thrashing because all these 
forks can't share memory. If the simulation or database process doesn't 
need to GC much, the 5% is negligible.

OTOH, most programs probably don't benefit, so shouldn't pay the 5%.

Thanks for your work on cowruby, Hongli.

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