From: "yertto (_ yertto) via ruby-core" Date: 2026-06-13T10:40:51+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:125739] [Ruby Feature#22108] Computed hash keys with (expr): syntax Issue #22108 has been updated by yertto (_ yertto). > yet another hash assoc syntax You're right ��� `:` is not an operator. And this change doesn't treat it as one. `:` works the same way it always has: you put something on the left, put `:` after it, and that something becomes the hash key. The change isn't about adding an operator, it's about completing an existing syntax family that currently stops at two left-hand forms. Ruby already has two hash key syntax families: `=>` (hash rocket) and `:` (hash colon). The proposal I'm making here is whether the hash colon family should be *complete* or remain *half-implemented*. Today, the hash colon covers most key forms but has a gap: | Key form | Rocket style | Colon style | |---------------------|-------------------------|--------------------| | Static symbol | `:foo => value` | `foo: value` | | Quoted symbol | `:"foo" => value` | `"foo": value` | | Value omission | N/A | `name:` | | Computed key | `(expr) => value` | ��� **`(expr): value` (proposed)** | The incomplete table forces every computed key into rocket syntax, which is the *real* asymmetry in modern Ruby. Adding `(expr):` doesn't increase bloat, it fills the one hole that prevents the hash colon family from being a complete, consistent syntax. --- > colon suffix always means a symbol You're right that `foo:` and `"foo":` both produce symbols. But the colon isn't what makes them symbols, the grammar production is. Ruby has three separate grammar rules for the left side of `:` in a hash: | Left side | What happens | Key type | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------|-----------------| | `foo` | Bareword interpreted as a symbol | Symbol `:foo` | | `"foo"` | String wrapped into a symbol | Symbol `:"foo"` | | `(expr)` | Expression evaluated, result used directly (new) | result of `expr`| The colon does the same thing in all three: it marks the key boundary. What happens to the left-hand value depends on which rule matched, not on anything the colon does. `"foo":` proves this. The colon doesn't turn `"foo"` into a symbol; the rule for strings wraps it into one. `(expr):` simply omits the wrapping step; the expression result is used as-is, which is the most honest interpretation. So the claim *"colon suffix always means symbol"* is true as its currently observed but still questionable at the mechanism level. `(expr):` doesn't break the rule, it reveals to us that the rule was about the production, not the colon. --- > (I've seen static analysis tools that check slice[-1] == ":" to determine if it's a symbol.) (This side note seems like a distraction. The debate about what `:` means is better had on linguistic grounds than by how heuristics happen to work today. I'd prefer to focus on what the syntax *should* mean, not on what existing tools happen to do.) --- > there is already a way to do this (`=>` already works) "Already works" sets the bar at syntax correctness, ignoring ergonomics, readability, and consistency. `=>` does work, but the question is whether Ruby should continue to force such a stark style break at non-symbol keys. Every tutorial teaches `label:` syntax as the default for symbol keys. Style guides recommend it. The community shifted preference decades ago. Telling users "use rockets for anything that isn't a bare symbol" is the *actual* inconsistency, not the addition of one missing form. --- > the goal of "simplifies the language, especially for newcomers" is very much not met Ruby has baggage: two separators, and `:` has an association with Symbol coercion, but things don't have to stay that way. There's a path forward... 1. **Add `(expr):`** a form where `:` acts purely as a key boundary, with zero coercion. Establishes the precedent that `:` doesn't *inherently* mean Symbol. 2. **Shift the mental model.** Clarify the colon's role. Currently `:` does double duty - it marks the key boundary and coerces bare words and Strings to Symbols. `(expr):` cleanly separates these: for `foo:` and `"foo":`, the left-hand form still triggers Symbol coercion; for `(expr):`, it doesn't. The colon itself is just a key boundary marker in all three cases and the coercion is a property of the left-hand form, not the colon. 3. **The door opens** for future cleanup. `(expr):` is uniquely valuable in this trajectory because it's the *least committal* form. It doesn't paint us into any corner. It's compatible with Symbol keys, String keys, or any future type decision. I guess for the newcomer it comes down to which would be simpler. A. **Without `(expr):`:** *"So `:` makes a symbol key: `{ name: "Alice" }`. That's the modern way. But if you want a computed key, you have to switch to `=>`: `{ (expr) => value }`. Different rules, different separator. You'll get used to it, or you could just use the rocket everywhere. No wait ... then you miss out on the `value_ommission:` case, so that also needs to use the colon."* B. **With `(expr):`:** *"`: after any expression means what comes before it is the key. If it's a bare word, it gets converted to a symbol. If it's a string, same thing, it converts to a symbol. If it's an expression, the result is used directly as the key. One consistent rule: `:` means key boundary."* IMO, the latter would be simpler to teach, simpler to remember, and reduces context switches. The implementation cost (a handful of lines in the parser) seems trivial compared to the gain in clarity. (BTW, I had considered making whitespace the disambiguator. ie. `{ foo: bar }` for symbol keys, `{ foo : bar }` for computed keys, but I came up with a few reasons against it, and so went with the parentheses design instead. Someone else is welcome to argue for that case separately, but I suspect there be too many dragons introducing space sensitivity to Ruby.) --- I think the real debate that you are raising here is whether or not the `=>` (hash rocket) is here to stay forever, or could one day be deprecated. My gut feeling is that `(expr):` is a step toward reducing `=>` usage. While your gut feeling is that `=>` will never go away and so `(expr):` is just more syntax for the same thing. Is that a fair assessment? While neither of us can prove our gut feelings will eventuate. One thing is certain: **without some kind of addition like `(expr):`, deprecation of Hash's rocket is structurally impossible.** Every computed key today requires `=>`, guaranteeing rocket usage in perpetuity. `(expr):` is a minimum viable step to find out whether rockets can fade. It costs a handful of lines in the grammar. And if `=>` usage doesn't decline, nothing is lost. But if we never try, we'll never know. And for those folks who currently enforce rockets everywhere via their linters, this change means they now have the option to shift toward the hash colon instead (if they want to). That's not the language forcing change; it's the language enabling choice. Rejecting `(expr):` isn't pragmatism, it's *guaranteeing* rockets within Hashes will stay forever. ---------------------------------------- Feature #22108: Computed hash keys with (expr): syntax https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/22108#change-117625 * Author: yertto (_ yertto) * Status: Open ---------------------------------------- # Computed hash keys with `(expr):` syntax Allow `{ (expr): value }` as a computed hash key. Almost 20 years in the making, the missing puzzle piece for Hash's "new" colon notation: ```ruby h = { name: "symbol shorthand", # Ruby 1.9+ "quoted label": "symbol label", # Ruby 2.2+ (Feature #4935) value_omission: , # Ruby 3.1+ (Feature #14579) (expr): "computed", # THIS PROPOSAL } ``` ## Motivation Ruby has several colon-based hash key syntaxes but the `=>` ("hash rocket") is still needed for non-symbolic keys. Adding `(expr):` is a baby step toward allowing all-colon hashes: ```ruby ## Before -- mixed styles n=42; { name: "Alice", role: "admin", "key-#{n}": "foo", RUBY_VERSION:, n => "bar" }.keys # => [:name, :role, :"key-42", :RUBY_VERSION, 42] ## After -- uniform colon syntax n=42; { name: "Alice", role: "admin", "key-#{n}": "foo", RUBY_VERSION:, (n): "bar" }.keys # => [:name, :role, :"key-42", :RUBY_VERSION, 42] ``` (And maybe a step closer to one day retiring our old friend "hash rocket" from Hashes entirely?) ### Completing the colon family | Example | Since Ruby | Key type | |---------|-------|----------| | `{ name: value }` | [v1.9](https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.4/NEWS/NEWS-1_9_1.html) | Symbol | | `{ "quoted label": value }` | [v2.2](https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.4/NEWS/NEWS-2_2_0.html) | Symbol (quoted label) | | `{ value_omission: }` | [v3.1](https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.4/NEWS/NEWS-3_1_0_md.html) | Value ommission | | `{ (expr): value }` | *???* | Runtime expression value | ### Readability for computed-key-heavy code Code that builds dynamic hashes currently forces a style break midway through a literal. This is especially noticeable with interpolated keys, numeric keys, or variable-driven keys. ### Reducing `=>` overloading The `=>` token is now being used to serve more purposes than just the Hash literal (aka "Hash rocket") it was originally used for. - rightward assignment ``` expr => var ``` - pattern capture ``` case {name: "Alice", role: "admin"} in {name: String => name, role:} # capture the name String value into `name` p name # => "Alice" end ``` - rescue variables ``` rescue SomeExceptionClass => e ``` ``` rescue => e ``` Reducing its use in Hashes simplifies the language, especially for newcomers. ## Design ### `(expr):` vs `[expr]:` Parenthesized expressions were chosen over square bracket delimited: - Idempotent wrapping: `((x))` = `(x)`, but `[[x]]` != `[x]` (nested array) - Array keys: `{(["a"]): "b"}` reads naturally vs `{[["a"]]: "b"}` requiring extra wrapping - `jq` precedent: the JSON query language uses identical `{("a"+"b"): 59}` syntax (since [jq 1.6](https://jqlang.org/manual/v1.6/#object-construction), 2018) - Parentheses signals a grouping or "evaluate this", whereas square brackets signals an Array/container ### Improving on JavaScript JavaScript's "[computed property names](https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Operators/Object_initializer#computed_property_names)" `{ [expr]: value }` were introduced in ECMAScript 2015 (ES6), 3 years before the jq version. However in Ruby, `[]` already means Array literal and method call. Rather than overloading `[]` further, `(expr):` (from jq) improves on the JavaScript design. Parentheses naturally signal evaluation, `():` inside `{}` is unambiguous to the lexer, and it matches the well-established jq convention. ### Edge cases handled - `(expr) : value` (space before colon) -- *syntax error* (consistent with `name : value`) - `{ (expr): }` (value omission) -- *syntax error* (runtime expression, no compile-time local to infer) - Mixed styles: `{ (1): "one", two: "two", "three": "three" }` -- *valid* - Nested parens: `{ ((1 + 2) * 3): "nested" }` -- *valid* - Nested hashes: `{ ({(1): "one"}): "two" }` -- *valid* ## Implementation Three changes to `parse.y` (Lrama LALR(1) parser, zero new conflicts): 1. Lexer: emit `tLABEL_END` when `EXPR_ENDFN` state, no space before `:`, and inside `brace_nest > 0` 2. Grammar: new `assoc` alternative -- `tLPAREN compstmt ")" tLABEL_END arg_value` 3. Precedence: `%nonassoc ')'` to disambiguate Reference implementation: [feature/computed-hash-keys](https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/17299) PR on GitHub. ## Historical context A version of this was discussed on ruby-core in October 2007 (as part of ["General hash keys for colon notation"](https://public-inbox.org/ruby-core/E1ImQBE-00033s-IZ@x31/T/), murphy). Unfortunately it was brought up during the v1.9 feature freeze, but it looks like [Matz's invitation to discuss for v2.0](https://public-inbox.org/ruby-core/E1ImQA8-00033T-8c@x31/) didn't end up going anywhere. Since then, `"quoted label":` (Ruby 2.2, [Feature #4935](https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/4935)) and value omission (Ruby 3.1, [Feature #14579](https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/14579)) have expanded the colon family, making the computed-key gap more conspicuous. Meanwhile, jq introduced the identical `{("a"+"b"):59}` syntax in [jq 1.6](https://jqlang.org/manual/v1.6/#object-construction) (2018), demonstrating real-world viability. ## Open questions - Is this syntax acceptable to the community? - Is the jq precedent compelling enough to address the "no language does this" objection? ## Future directions All colon-based key syntaxes would now be available. This opens up the possibility of eventually deprecating `=>` from Hash literals (while keeping it for rescue, pattern matching, and rightward assignment). This proposal does not require that change - it is simply the enabling step, and any deprecation timeline could be a separate discussion. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/