From: "vo.x (Vit Ondruch) via ruby-core" Date: 2025-11-03T22:43:22+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:123670] [Ruby Misc#21657] Question: Is Ruby 4.0 planned for December 2025 or later? Issue #21657 has been updated by vo.x (Vit Ondruch). I agree with @byroot that the upper bound restriction is from my experience very impractical. As a maintainer of Ruby in Fedora, once we update Ruby in the distribution, we also make sure that all other packages are compatible with it. In such situation, the upper bout restriction is unhelpful. There are multiple scenarios, I'll name randomly just a few: * There might be situations when such package passes it test suite, but later it is not usable just due to the metadata. * There might be restriction in some of the package dependency chain, but then we cannot know if the bigger dependency chain is problematic, because e.g we cannot even execute test suites of packages, which on itself does not have any restrictions. * If there is issue, contributing the fix to upstream is typically harder. It is one more thing which needs to be taken care of. Contributing fix, I want to provide solve the root cause, I don't want to maintain gemspecs, Gemfiles, CI settings etc. Mainly because various projects has various version support policies or capacities (and please don't take me wrong, sometimes our contribution maybe is just enabling CI for the latest Ruby version to highlight some problem). * Part of the problem also is that while upstream might do outstanding work and supports whole Ruby version matrix, maybe the maintainer in Fedora disappears or is busy and suddenly the gem version in Fedora lags behind upstream, causing all sorts of issues, because we generally keep just single version of package which needs to be compatible with the rest of ecosystem. ---------------------------------------- Misc #21657: Question: Is Ruby 4.0 planned for December 2025 or later? https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/21657#change-115052 * Author: dmitry.pogrebnoy (Dmitry Pogrebnoy) * Status: Feedback ---------------------------------------- Hello Ruby core team, I noticed that the first preview of Ruby 3.5 has been released, and at the same time there���s some talk in the community about Ruby 4.0 potentially arriving in December 2025. Could you please clarify what the current roadmap looks like? Is Ruby 4.0 already planned for this December, or is the next stable release still Ruby 3.5? Having a clear, public roadmap would really help library and tooling authors (like IDE vendors) prepare for upcoming versions and provide better support. Thank you! -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/