From: "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" Date: 2024-09-30T09:11:37+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:119355] [Ruby master Bug#20714] Handle optional dependencies in `bundled_gems.rb` Issue #20714 has been updated by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA). >All it does is supress the warning from reline (which is suppressed directly in the gem right now anyways) when fiddle is gone in 3.5 Yes, I only accept that point with your request in this time. I may add `syslog` to OPTIONAL with `logging` cases. >Again, if a gem is optional depends on how it is used. Don't give everyone else with fiddle the same treatment just because reline does it in a specific way. My opinion is that either all gems should warn indefinitely or none. OK, I'll revert all related changes if that's what you said that. I'm considering how to suppress needless warning with your request, But I can't collaborate with your tone. ---------------------------------------- Bug #20714: Handle optional dependencies in `bundled_gems.rb` https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/20714#change-109968 * Author: Earlopain (A S) * Status: Assigned * Assignee: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) * ruby -v: 3.3.5 * Backport: 3.1: UNKNOWN, 3.2: UNKNOWN, 3.3: UNKNOWN ---------------------------------------- I've encountered a few places around bundled gems where the library doesn't care if the gem is available, but will still provide some functionallity if it is. The way to accomplish that right now seems to be by setting `$VERBOSE = nil` and resetting it later again to not bother the user with the warning about the gem. However, this has the effect of silencing the warning about other gems as well, that may not be prepared about the bundling. >From `ruby/reline` for example: https://github.com/ruby/reline/blob/c90f08f7e308d2f1cdd7cfaf9939fe45ce546fd2/lib/reline/terminfo.rb#L1-L15 Or the `logging` gem: https://github.com/TwP/logging/blob/df41715364f7eb8c65098cd3c3316677ef1f3784/lib/logging.rb#L9-L15 I propose to simply delay the warning to the next require. GitHub PR at https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/11545 -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/