[#11569] sprintf: Format specifier tokens aren't checked well enough — Florian Gross <florgro@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/07/01

[#11611] Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

130 messages 2007/07/08
[#11625] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/07/09

On Jul 8, 2007, at 00:49, SASADA Koichi wrote:

[#11727] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/17

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[#11738] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/07/17

On Jul 17, 2007, at 01:26, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#11752] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/18

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[#11794] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/24

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[#11820] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/26

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[#12323] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/01

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[#12330] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/01

On Sep 30, 2007, at 22:56 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12637] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 1, 2007, at 09:57 , Eric Hodel wrote:

[#12642] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/13

Hi,

[#12643] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/13

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[#12645] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 13, 2007, at 02:00 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12652] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/13

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[#12656] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 13, 2007, at 08:00 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12691] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/15

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[#12712] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/16

On Oct 15, 2007, at 07:14 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12717] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "Leonard Chin" <l.g.chin@...> 2007/10/17

On 10/17/07, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#12729] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/10/17

Leonard Chin wrote:

[#12766] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/19

In article <4710890A.3020009@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12768] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/19

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[#12771] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/19

In article <4718708D.3050001@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12792] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/20

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[#12798] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/21

In article <471A1720.4080606@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12827] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/22

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[#12852] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/23

In article <471CAFE0.2070104@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12853] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#12854] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/23

In article <471D4D1F.5050006@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12857] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#12896] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/24

In article <471D5665.5040209@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12914] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/25

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[#11642] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>

On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:02:06PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

21 messages 2007/07/13
[#11671] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2007/07/13

[#11645] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

20 messages 2007/07/13
[#11646] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/07/13

Hi,

[#11647] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/07/13

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#11650] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/07/13

Hi,

[#11756] threads and heavy io on osx and linux — "ara.t.howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

15 messages 2007/07/18

[#11795] What libraries to be unbundled? — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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27 messages 2007/07/24
[#11797] Re: What libraries to be unbundled? — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/07/24

I don't think that json should be unbundled. It is the interchange

Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9

From: "Chad Fowler" <chad@...>
Date: 2007-07-22 16:58:44 UTC
List: ruby-core #11779
On 7/17/07, Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@zenspider.com> wrote:
>
> On Jul 17, 2007, at 01:26 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:
>
> > Are you and RubyGems maintainers negative to include RubyGems in
> > ruby/1.9.1 ?
>
> No, I don't think we are. We just have that one feature that we
> really need before rubygems is more or less considered feature
> complete. After that there are some bug fixes and other things that
> need to go in, but I'm guessing that'd work out fairly well with the
> ruby 1.9.1 timeframe.
>
> > I have a plan to propose unbundling some libraries such as soap4r, tk,
> > webrick, json, etc.  Maintainer-less libraries such as yaml should be
> > unbundled, too (bear in mind that I'm talking about ruby/1.9).  It can
> > be a gem when RubyGems is bundled in MRI.  It can be a package of
> > another packaging system(deb, rpm, etc.), too.  Users will use
> > favorite
> > packaging system then.
>
> I think this is wonderful. Too long has there been a lot of cruft in
> ruby. This will let meritocracy take over. Ownerless libraries should
> still probably be released in the ruby project on rubyforge tho so
> they can still be represented in terms of ticket tracking and the like.
>

I strongly agree that unbundling a lot of the built in standard libs
from Ruby would be a very positive thing.  One of the major reasons
I'd like to see this happen is that having, for example, a JSON
library in Ruby's core distribution discourages bazaar-like,
evolutionary development of further JSON libraries.  Sure, the code is
Open Source, and patches are (I'm sure) warmly accepted for most of
the standard libraries, but the fact that a library exists and is
"blessed" as being official kills competition to some extent.

A policy to never bundle libraries which aren't necessary for "core
infrastructure" for the Ruby distribution would greatly improve the
sense that the Ruby community hasn't decided that there can/should
never be another TK, SOAP, JSON, RSS, etc. library written from
scratch.

RubyGems is the defacto standard already.  All but a very small few
Ruby developers install it as a separate step.  Including it in the
distribution enables the unbundling of a whole lot of other libraries.

I'm strongly in favor.  We do need to, as Ryan and/or Eric have
already said, make sure we can still upgrade RubyGems externally, but
I don't see any barrier to that being possible.

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