[#11569] sprintf: Format specifier tokens aren't checked well enough — Florian Gross <florgro@...>

Hi,

12 messages 2007/07/01

[#11611] Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — SASADA Koichi <ko1@...>

Hi,

130 messages 2007/07/08
[#11625] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/07/09

On Jul 8, 2007, at 00:49, SASADA Koichi wrote:

[#11727] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/17

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[#11738] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/07/17

On Jul 17, 2007, at 01:26, NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#11752] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/18

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[#11794] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/24

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[#11820] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/07/26

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[#12323] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/01

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[#12330] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/01

On Sep 30, 2007, at 22:56 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12637] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 1, 2007, at 09:57 , Eric Hodel wrote:

[#12642] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/10/13

Hi,

[#12643] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/13

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[#12645] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 13, 2007, at 02:00 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12652] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/13

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[#12656] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/13

On Oct 13, 2007, at 08:00 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12691] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/15

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[#12712] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Eric Hodel <drbrain@...7.net> 2007/10/16

On Oct 15, 2007, at 07:14 , NAKAMURA, Hiroshi wrote:

[#12717] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "Leonard Chin" <l.g.chin@...> 2007/10/17

On 10/17/07, Eric Hodel <drbrain@segment7.net> wrote:

[#12729] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/10/17

Leonard Chin wrote:

[#12766] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/19

In article <4710890A.3020009@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12768] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/19

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[#12771] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/19

In article <4718708D.3050001@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12792] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/20

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[#12798] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/21

In article <471A1720.4080606@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12827] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/22

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[#12852] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/23

In article <471CAFE0.2070104@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12853] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#12854] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/23

In article <471D4D1F.5050006@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12857] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/23

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[#12896] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — Tanaka Akira <akr@...> 2007/10/24

In article <471D5665.5040209@sarion.co.jp>,

[#12914] Re: Import gem to Ruby 1.9 — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...> 2007/10/25

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[#11642] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>

On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:02:06PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

21 messages 2007/07/13
[#11671] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Ryan Davis <ryand-ruby@...> 2007/07/13

[#11645] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...>

Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:

20 messages 2007/07/13
[#11646] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Yukihiro Matsumoto <matz@...> 2007/07/13

Hi,

[#11647] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Charles Oliver Nutter <charles.nutter@...> 2007/07/13

Yukihiro Matsumoto wrote:

[#11650] Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords — Nobuyoshi Nakada <nobu@...> 2007/07/13

Hi,

[#11756] threads and heavy io on osx and linux — "ara.t.howard" <Ara.T.Howard@...>

15 messages 2007/07/18

[#11795] What libraries to be unbundled? — "NAKAMURA, Hiroshi" <nakahiro@...>

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27 messages 2007/07/24
[#11797] Re: What libraries to be unbundled? — David Flanagan <david@...> 2007/07/24

I don't think that json should be unbundled. It is the interchange

Re: Proposal: runtime-modifying Kernel methods should be keywords

From: "Marcel Molina Jr." <marcel@...>
Date: 2007-07-13 06:18:25 UTC
List: ruby-core #11642
On Fri, Jul 13, 2007 at 03:02:06PM +0900, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote:
> 2. Because many of these methods manipulate normally-inaccessible 
> runtime state, it is not possible to implement them in Ruby code. 
> Therefore, even if someone wanted to override them (the primary reason 
> for them to be methods) they could not duplicate their behavior in the 
> overridden version. Overriding only destroys their utility.

I certainly have little influence in this matter, and your appeal is really
targeted at only a handful of people (Matz, Evan, John, etc) but though I
acknowledge that having that functionality implemented as methods makes
little sense especially since all the state it operates on is hidden away in
the internals, *my* interests and priorities would respond to that problem by
wanting to consider how those internals my instead be *exposed*. In some
cases that might not really be straight forward or make sense, and it flies
in the face of all your desired optimizations but I just wanted to provide a
perspective from someone with different priorities than yours.

In almost all cases I would want Ruby to be more open at the cost of
performance.

Though I'm not against what you are proposing. Given the current state of
affairs, it makes sense to make all those things keywords. I'd just rather,
idealistically, move in the other direction.

marcel
-- 
Marcel Molina Jr. <marcel@vernix.org>

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