[#113756] [Ruby master Bug#19711] NoMethodError "private method `new' called for class" since bebd05fb51ea65bc57344b67100748200f8311eb — "yahonda (Yasuo Honda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19711 has been reported by yahonda (Yasuo Honda).

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[#113771] [Ruby master Feature#19712] IO#reopen removes singleton class — "itarato (Peter Arato) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19712 has been reported by itarato (Peter Arato).

11 messages 2023/06/05

[#113782] [Ruby master Bug#19716] SystemStackError occurs too easily on Alpine Linux (due to small stack size reported by pthread_attr_getstacksize on musl libc) — "alexdowad (Alex Dowad) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19716 has been reported by alexdowad (Alex Dowad).

6 messages 2023/06/07

[#113788] [Ruby master Bug#19717] `ConditionVariable#signal` is not fair when the wakeup is consistently spurious. — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19717 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

13 messages 2023/06/07

[#113819] [Ruby master Feature#19720] Warning for non-linear Regexps — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19720 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

11 messages 2023/06/08

[#113835] [Ruby master Misc#19722] DevMeeting-2023-07-13 — "mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19722 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

9 messages 2023/06/09

[#113944] [Ruby master Feature#19737] Add `IO::Buffer#cat` for concat `IO::Buffer` instances — "unasuke (Yusuke Nakamura) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19737 has been reported by unasuke (Yusuke Nakamura).

7 messages 2023/06/19

[#113953] [Ruby master Bug#19739] Key cannot be found in a Hash when slice! method is applied to the key — "ilya.andreyuk (Ilya Andreyuk) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19739 has been reported by ilya.andreyuk (Ilya Andreyuk).

9 messages 2023/06/20

[#113966] [Ruby master Bug#19742] Introduce `Module#anonymous?` — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19742 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

47 messages 2023/06/21

[#114025] [Ruby master Feature#19744] Namespace on read — "tagomoris (Satoshi TAGOMORI) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19744 has been reported by tagomoris (Satoshi TAGOMORI).

71 messages 2023/06/27

[#114032] [Ruby master Misc#19747] Propose Kevin Newton and Jemma Issroff as core committers — "k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19747 has been reported by k0kubun (Takashi Kokubun).

8 messages 2023/06/28

[#114038] [Ruby master Bug#19749] Confirm correct behaviour when attaching private method with `#define_method` — "itarato (Peter Arato) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19749 has been reported by itarato (Peter Arato).

15 messages 2023/06/28

[ruby-core:113999] [Ruby master Feature#19742] Introduce `Module#anonymous?`

From: "rubyFeedback (robert heiler) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2023-06-22 08:17:31 UTC
List: ruby-core #113999
Issue #19742 has been updated by rubyFeedback (robert heiler).


> I don't think Rails should monkey patch Module in this way either.

This may be a problem with some of rails idioms, e. g. how HashWithIndifferentAccess
arose, to give one example. While one may understand the use case (not having to
care about same-named key strings and key symbols), it can be confusing when the
terminology does not match e. g. matz's expectation or terminology.

To the actual topic: this is the first time I heard about "permanent?". I think I 
heard about anonymous modules before, but never ".permanent?()". For the purpose
of the proposal it may be easier to ignore .permanent? altogether and just focus
on the question of the usefulness / use case of "Module#anonymous?". (I have no
particular opinion on whether it is needed or not; in my own code I rarely have 
unnamed things, not even using Class.new either. I try to keep meta-programming
as simple as possible to avoid my poor brain having to figure out what I did 
months ago with some spaghetti code.)

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Feature #19742: Introduce `Module#anonymous?`
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19742#change-103657

* Author: ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
----------------------------------------
As a follow-on <from https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19521>, I'd like propose we introduce `Module#anonymous?`.

In some situations, like logging/formatting, serialisation/deserialization, debugging or meta-programming, we might like to know if a class is a proper constant or not.

However, this brings about some other issues which might need to be discussed.

After assigning a constant, then removing it, the internal state of Ruby still believes that the class name is permanent, even thought it's no longer true.

e.g.

```
m = Module.new
m.anonymous? # true

M = m
m.anonyomous # false

Object.send(:remove_const, :M)
M # uninitialized constant M (NameError)

m.anonymous? # false
```

Because RCLASS data structure is not updated after the constant is removed, internally the state still has a "permanent class name".

I want to use this proposal to discuss this issue and whether there is anything we should do about such behaviour (or even if it's desirable).

Proposed PR: https://github.com/ruby/ruby/pull/7966

cc @fxn



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