From: "rubyFeedback (robert heiler) via ruby-core" Date: 2023-06-03T09:35:50+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:113749] [Ruby master Feature#19708] Support `attr_reader :foo?` Issue #19708 has been updated by rubyFeedback (robert heiler). Personally I agree with the proposal, largely because I love methods that end with a trailing '?' - I think that was a good language decision choice matz made to indicate query-like methods via ?. Such as: if game_over? notify_the_user_that_the_game_is_over end I kind of have stopped using attr* methods though, in part because I could not use them for trailing '?', but in part also because I seem to become lazier whenever I use attr methods. Additionally some methods need to do some clean-up and sanitization steps in certain classes, and the attr-methods only really are super-simple, not allowing for extra actions here - e. g. just to be used as setters and getters. I do seem to remember that there was a reason given as to why no trailing '?' method exists for the attr-family of methods. I think matz mentioned this once on the bugtracker, but I forgot the explanation. > You can workaround this by using attr_reader to create the > optimized method, alias_method to give it the nice active? > name, and then remove_method to delete the original non-? > name: There are many work arounds. I simply use the "def" variant. :P def age? @age end; alias age age? (Although for larger classes, I shifted towards using a Hash that keeps track of all instance variables instead. I found that once you have like ~20 different instance variables, a Hash seems easier to understand than individual instance variables.) Note that I think your proposal has not been clear in regards to what attr_reader would do. Are these two separate methods or not? Consider this: attr_reader :foobar attr_reader :foobar? Both would query over @foobar, right? But are these the same methods or different? e. g. when someone undefines/removes them, is the other one removed or not? That should also be clarified in the proposal IMO, just to make it instantly clear to the dev team what is meant exactly. ---------------------------------------- Feature #19708: Support `attr_reader :foo?` https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19708#change-103396 * Author: AMomchilov (Alexander Momchilov) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal ---------------------------------------- Creating reader methods with `attr_reader` is preferable over defining them by hand, not only because it's more convenient, but also because it hits a fast path in MRI (see `VM_METHOD_TYPE_IVAR`). Since local and instance variables can't end with `?`, you can't use `attr_reader` to define predicate-style methods for boolean values, like: ```ruby class Person attr_reader :name, :age, :active? # invalid attribute name `active?' (NameError) def initialize @name = "Bob" @age = 30 @active = true end end ``` It would be nice if `attr_reader` (and friends) could behave like: ```ruby def active? = @active ``` (`attr_writer` and `attr_accessor` couldn't do the same, since `def active?=(new_value)` isn't valid, so they'd probably stick with `def active=(new_value)`) -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/