[#111565] [Ruby master Bug#19293] The new Time.new(String) API is nice... but we still need a stricter version of this — "matsuda (Akira Matsuda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19293 has been reported by matsuda (Akira Matsuda).

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[#111572] [Ruby master Bug#19297] Don't download content from internet to execute Ruby test suite — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19297 has been reported by vo.x (Vit Ondruch).

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[#111579] [Ruby master Feature#19300] Move public objects from Kernel to Object — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19300 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

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[#111581] [Ruby master Bug#19301] Fix Data class to report keyrest instead of rest parameters — "bkuhlmann (Brooke Kuhlmann) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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8 messages 2023/01/02

[#111604] [Ruby master Misc#19304] Kernel vs Object documentation — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19304 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

8 messages 2023/01/03

[#111674] [Ruby master Feature#19314] String#bytesplice should support partial copy — "shugo (Shugo Maeda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19314 has been reported by shugo (Shugo Maeda).

8 messages 2023/01/06

[#111678] [Ruby master Feature#19315] Lazy substrings in CRuby — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19315 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

11 messages 2023/01/06

[#111693] [Ruby master Bug#19316] YJIT crash in 3.2.0 — "jdashton (J Daniel Ashton) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19316 has been reported by jdashton (J Daniel Ashton).

12 messages 2023/01/06

[#111696] [Ruby master Feature#19317] Unicode ICU Full case mapping — "noraj (Alexandre ZANNI) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#111712] [Ruby master Feature#19322] Support spawning "private" child processes — "kjtsanaktsidis (KJ Tsanaktsidis) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#111739] [Ruby master Feature#19324] Enumerator.product => Enumerable#product — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19324 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

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[#111740] [Ruby master Bug#19325] Windows support lacking. — "dsisnero (Dominic Sisneros) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19325 has been reported by dsisnero (Dominic Sisneros).

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[#111742] [Ruby master Feature#19326] Please add a better API for passing a Proc to a Ractor — sdwolfz via ruby-core <ruby-core@...>

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[#111789] [Ruby master Feature#19333] Setting (Fiber Local|Thread Local|Fiber Storage) to nil should delete value in order to avoid memory leaks. — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19333 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

10 messages 2023/01/11

[#111792] [Ruby master Bug#19334] Defining many instance variables and accessing them is slow in Ruby 3.2.0 — "mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19334 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

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[#111812] [Ruby master Bug#19340] Ruby master 'make install' not installing rbs gem — "MSP-Greg (Greg L) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19340 has been reported by MSP-Greg (Greg L).

8 messages 2023/01/14

[#111842] [Ruby master Feature#19347] Add Dir.fchdir — "jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19347 has been reported by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).

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[#111873] [Ruby master Bug#19351] Promote bundled gems at Ruby 3.3 — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#111890] [Ruby master Bug#19352] Feature #17391 was not such a good idea because now Ruby 3.2 can not install Rails v5 or v6 if they use webpacker. — "Milella@... (Scott Milella) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#111953] [Ruby master Bug#19362] #dup on Proc doesn't call initialize_dup — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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8 messages 2023/01/21

[#111956] [Ruby master Bug#19363] Fix rb_transient_heap_mark: wrong header (T_STRUCT) segfault — "bkuhlmann (Brooke Kuhlmann) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#111988] [Ruby master Feature#19370] Anonymous parameters for blocks? — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19370 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

10 messages 2023/01/23

[#112041] [Ruby master Feature#19377] Rename Fiber#storage to Fiber.storage — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19377 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

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[#112045] [Ruby master Bug#19378] Windows: Use less syscalls for faster require of big gems — "aidog (Andi Idogawa) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#112048] [Ruby master Bug#19379] Regex: "end pattern with unmatched parenthesis" with Ruby 3.2 and interpolation — "renchap (Renaud Chaput) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#112058] [Ruby master Bug#19383] Time.now.zone encoding for German display language in Windows is incorrect — "stringsn88keys (Thomas Powell) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[#112072] [Ruby master Bug#19386] `test_hmac.rb` of openssl is timeout on RHEL9 — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19386 has been reported by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).

14 messages 2023/01/27

[#112091] [Ruby master Bug#19387] Issue with ObjectSpace.each_objects not returning IO objects after starting a ractor — "luke-gru (Luke Gruber) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19387 has been reported by luke-gru (Luke Gruber).

9 messages 2023/01/27

[#112119] [Ruby master Bug#19392] Endless method vs and/or — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19392 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

20 messages 2023/01/30

[#112146] [Ruby master Bug#19394] cvars in instance of cloned class point to source class's cvars even after class_variable_set on clone — "jamescdavis (James Davis) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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[ruby-core:111863] [Ruby master Misc#19304] Kernel vs Object documentation

From: "matheusrich (Matheus Richard) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2023-01-17 19:58:52 UTC
List: ruby-core #111863
Issue #19304 has been updated by matheusrich (Matheus Richard).


Thanks for voicing that, @sverok! I always found this confusing (i.e., some methods being defined in Kernel, not in Object), and I'd love to see the docs reflect that in some form. (1) feels like the right thing to do, so what are the roadblocks? Backward compatibility? After that, I think (4) is the way to go.

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Misc #19304: Kernel vs Object documentation
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19304#change-101277

* Author: zverok (Victor Shepelev)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
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The restating of the problems raised in #19300, from scratch.

I believe it is rather a topic of **community significance** and would be happy if it is possible to **discuss on dev-meeting**, even if the outcome would probably "let's change RDoc in this or that way".


So, the problem statement:
1. `Kernel` module defines two "types" of methods: private ones, that pretend to be global (like `puts`), but actually available from inside every object; and public ones (like `#class` or `#frozen?`) that are present in every object including `Kernel`. 
2. Since the beginning of times, docs provided an illusion that the second type of the methods belongs to `Object` class, which is, in fact, devoid of its own definitions, just includes `Kernel`. This was handled by special RDoc hack (which, basically, forcefully [reattached definition](https://github.com/ruby/rdoc/blob/017bb9fa496ee0e0959facba694a053008d1ecb0/lib/rdoc/parser/c.rb#L477) of public methods if they are defined in `Kernel`, to `Object`)
3. The RDoc hack was working in C code only, so after introduction of `kernel.rb` the illusion started to crumble: methods like `#tap`, `#then`, `#class` [are now documented](https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.2/Kernel.html) as belonging to `Kernel` (breaking the tradition of public methods being documented in `Object`)
4. This is all inconsistent and confusing, and I believe, adds to friction both for newcomers and curious investigators of the language!

Additionally, I believe:
1. That the distinction of "two kinds of methods" is useful (saying from a practical experience with explaining Ruby while mentoring, writing articles, and discussing with colleagues)
2. But, considering everything, I agree with what @Eregon and @nobu say in #19300: pretending that methods belong not to the module they really belong to is not the optimal way to document things!

So, the options I see (save for "do nothing and let things sort themselves somehow"):
1. Change Ruby's implementation so public methods would really belong to `Object`. Actually, I don't believe anybody would agree to experiment on this scale, so just listing it here for completeness.
2. Just remove the RDoc hack; all methods would belong to `Kernel`, and maybe some introductory free-form text will instruct that they are different. **Pro:** Easy to do. **Contra:** The `Kernel` docs would be super-confusing.
3. Continue to maintain the hack in RDoc and extend it to `kernel.rb` (so methods like `#clone` and `#frozen?` would be still in `Object`). **Pro:** Relatively easy to do, will maintain structure many people used to. **Contra:** This is still a lie, methods belong to `Kernel`, not `Object`.
4. Adjust RDoc to a) be able to separately list **public** and **private** methods in two different lists, and add intro for `Kernel` explaining how to treat those. **Pro:** Probably the best correspondence to reality? **Contra:** Not sure how easy it is to change RDoc this way; and other renderers (like ruby-doc.com and rubyapi.org) would need to adjust themselves.

So far, (4) looks the most reasonable (if (1) is 100% impossible, that is!)



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