From: "randallcoding (Randall Coding) via ruby-core" Date: 2023-01-09T21:06:00+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:111751] [Ruby master Feature#19328] Please bring back the use of Hash objects for keyword arguments Issue #19328 has been updated by randallcoding (Randall Coding). jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) wrote in #note-2: > > is now well established Many developers are working on legacy systems that aren't immediately up to date with the latest version of ruby. To imply this is "established" across the entire community is misleading. I didn't have a single client using rails 3.0 or greater until this week. > for good reasons I don't think the edge case given is good reason to remove a commonly used and well made Ruby functionality. It is not worth the trade off. I suggest handling the edge case specifically and retain the original quality functionality. > I estimate that this feature request has a 0% change of approval. I want to make my voice heard regardless of the likelihood of a change. But also, it is never too late to correct a mistake. ---------------------------------------- Feature #19328: Please bring back the use of Hash objects for keyword arguments https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19328#change-101153 * Author: randallcoding (Randall Coding) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal ---------------------------------------- The change in 3.0 (linked here https://www.ruby-lang.org/en/news/2019/12/12/separation-of-positional-and-keyword-arguments-in-ruby-3-0/) no longer automatically converts Hash objects into keyword arguments. This takes Ruby away from what it has always been about: being as intuitive and developer friendly as possible. The solution given to make a hash into keywords is to perform a double splat (**) on the hash object. This is confusing and esoteric, not to mention will require a lot of old code to be re-written. For example I have code that was written like this ``` ruby def Foo(a:, b:) puts a + b end ``` which I can call by simply using ``` ruby myhash = {a:3, b:5} Foo(myhash) ``` Look at the clarity, simplicity and convenience. The interpreter takes care of the messy and unnecessary bits and our code is easily understandable by other humans. But now for the same function we need to write ``` ruby Foo(**myhash) ``` We have to add superficial extra strokes (from the human perspective) to achieve what our intelligent interpreter once knew we wanted with less hassle. Let's not become like those other language! Please keep Ruby intuitive, convenient and developer friendly and make this feature what is was before. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ ______________________________________________ ruby-core mailing list -- ruby-core@ml.ruby-lang.org To unsubscribe send an email to ruby-core-leave@ml.ruby-lang.org ruby-core info -- https://ml.ruby-lang.org/mailman3/postorius/lists/ruby-core.ml.ruby-lang.org/