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[#111565] [Ruby master Bug#19293] The new Time.new(String) API is nice... but we still need a stricter version of this — "matsuda (Akira Matsuda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19293 has been reported by matsuda (Akira Matsuda).

8 messages 2023/01/01

[#111572] [Ruby master Bug#19297] Don't download content from internet to execute Ruby test suite — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19297 has been reported by vo.x (Vit Ondruch).

12 messages 2023/01/02

[#111579] [Ruby master Feature#19300] Move public objects from Kernel to Object — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19300 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

15 messages 2023/01/02

[#111581] [Ruby master Bug#19301] Fix Data class to report keyrest instead of rest parameters — "bkuhlmann (Brooke Kuhlmann) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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8 messages 2023/01/02

[#111604] [Ruby master Misc#19304] Kernel vs Object documentation — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19304 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

8 messages 2023/01/03

[#111674] [Ruby master Feature#19314] String#bytesplice should support partial copy — "shugo (Shugo Maeda) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19314 has been reported by shugo (Shugo Maeda).

8 messages 2023/01/06

[#111678] [Ruby master Feature#19315] Lazy substrings in CRuby — "Eregon (Benoit Daloze) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19315 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

11 messages 2023/01/06

[#111693] [Ruby master Bug#19316] YJIT crash in 3.2.0 — "jdashton (J Daniel Ashton) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19316 has been reported by jdashton (J Daniel Ashton).

12 messages 2023/01/06

[#111696] [Ruby master Feature#19317] Unicode ICU Full case mapping — "noraj (Alexandre ZANNI) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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7 messages 2023/01/06

[#111712] [Ruby master Feature#19322] Support spawning "private" child processes — "kjtsanaktsidis (KJ Tsanaktsidis) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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14 messages 2023/01/07

[#111739] [Ruby master Feature#19324] Enumerator.product => Enumerable#product — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19324 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

18 messages 2023/01/08

[#111740] [Ruby master Bug#19325] Windows support lacking. — "dsisnero (Dominic Sisneros) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19325 has been reported by dsisnero (Dominic Sisneros).

11 messages 2023/01/08

[#111742] [Ruby master Feature#19326] Please add a better API for passing a Proc to a Ractor — sdwolfz via ruby-core <ruby-core@...>

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13 messages 2023/01/08

[#111789] [Ruby master Feature#19333] Setting (Fiber Local|Thread Local|Fiber Storage) to nil should delete value in order to avoid memory leaks. — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19333 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

10 messages 2023/01/11

[#111792] [Ruby master Bug#19334] Defining many instance variables and accessing them is slow in Ruby 3.2.0 — "mame (Yusuke Endoh) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19334 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

12 messages 2023/01/12

[#111812] [Ruby master Bug#19340] Ruby master 'make install' not installing rbs gem — "MSP-Greg (Greg L) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19340 has been reported by MSP-Greg (Greg L).

8 messages 2023/01/14

[#111842] [Ruby master Feature#19347] Add Dir.fchdir — "jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19347 has been reported by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans).

9 messages 2023/01/16

[#111873] [Ruby master Bug#19351] Promote bundled gems at Ruby 3.3 — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19351 has been reported by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).

26 messages 2023/01/18

[#111890] [Ruby master Bug#19352] Feature #17391 was not such a good idea because now Ruby 3.2 can not install Rails v5 or v6 if they use webpacker. — "Milella@... (Scott Milella) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19352 has been reported by Milella@Hotmail.com (Scott Milella).

16 messages 2023/01/19

[#111953] [Ruby master Bug#19362] #dup on Proc doesn't call initialize_dup — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19362 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

8 messages 2023/01/21

[#111956] [Ruby master Bug#19363] Fix rb_transient_heap_mark: wrong header (T_STRUCT) segfault — "bkuhlmann (Brooke Kuhlmann) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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9 messages 2023/01/21

[#111988] [Ruby master Feature#19370] Anonymous parameters for blocks? — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19370 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

10 messages 2023/01/23

[#112041] [Ruby master Feature#19377] Rename Fiber#storage to Fiber.storage — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19377 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

8 messages 2023/01/25

[#112045] [Ruby master Bug#19378] Windows: Use less syscalls for faster require of big gems — "aidog (Andi Idogawa) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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7 messages 2023/01/26

[#112048] [Ruby master Bug#19379] Regex: "end pattern with unmatched parenthesis" with Ruby 3.2 and interpolation — "renchap (Renaud Chaput) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19379 has been reported by renchap (Renaud Chaput).

8 messages 2023/01/26

[#112058] [Ruby master Bug#19383] Time.now.zone encoding for German display language in Windows is incorrect — "stringsn88keys (Thomas Powell) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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11 messages 2023/01/26

[#112072] [Ruby master Bug#19386] `test_hmac.rb` of openssl is timeout on RHEL9 — "hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19386 has been reported by hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA).

14 messages 2023/01/27

[#112091] [Ruby master Bug#19387] Issue with ObjectSpace.each_objects not returning IO objects after starting a ractor — "luke-gru (Luke Gruber) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19387 has been reported by luke-gru (Luke Gruber).

9 messages 2023/01/27

[#112119] [Ruby master Bug#19392] Endless method vs and/or — "zverok (Victor Shepelev) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

Issue #19392 has been reported by zverok (Victor Shepelev).

20 messages 2023/01/30

[#112146] [Ruby master Bug#19394] cvars in instance of cloned class point to source class's cvars even after class_variable_set on clone — "jamescdavis (James Davis) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>

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8 messages 2023/01/31

[ruby-core:111613] [Ruby master Misc#19304] Kernel vs Object documentation

From: "nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada) via ruby-core" <ruby-core@...>
Date: 2023-01-04 06:27:34 UTC
List: ruby-core #111613
Issue #19304 has been updated by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).


Is the option 3 like this?
https://github.com/ruby/rdoc/pull/961

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Misc #19304: Kernel vs Object documentation
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/19304#change-100985

* Author: zverok (Victor Shepelev)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
* Assignee: matz (Yukihiro Matsumoto)
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The restating of the problems raised in #19300, from scratch.

I believe it is rather a topic of **community significance** and would be happy if it is possible to **discuss on dev-meeting**, even if the outcome would probably "let's change RDoc in this or that way".


So, the problem statement:
1. `Kernel` module defines two "types" of methods: private ones, that pretend to be global (like `puts`), but actually available from inside every object; and public ones (like `#class` or `#frozen?`) that are present in every object including `Kernel`. 
2. Since the beginning of times, docs provided an illusion that the second type of the methods belongs to `Object` class, which is, in fact, devoid of its own definitions, just includes `Kernel`. This was handled by special RDoc hack (which, basically, forcefully [reattached definition](https://github.com/ruby/rdoc/blob/017bb9fa496ee0e0959facba694a053008d1ecb0/lib/rdoc/parser/c.rb#L477) of public methods if they are defined in `Kernel`, to `Object`)
3. The RDoc hack was working in C code only, so after introduction of `kernel.rb` the illusion started to crumble: methods like `#tap`, `#then`, `#class` [are now documented](https://docs.ruby-lang.org/en/3.2/Kernel.html) as belonging to `Kernel` (breaking the tradition of public methods being documented in `Object`)
4. This is all inconsistent and confusing, and I believe, adds to friction both for newcomers and curious investigators of the language!

Additionally, I believe:
1. That the distinction of "two kinds of methods" is useful (saying from a practical experience with explaining Ruby while mentoring, writing articles, and discussing with colleagues)
2. But, considering everything, I agree with what @Eregon and @nobu say in #19300: pretending that methods belong not to the module they really belong to is not the optimal way to document things!

So, the options I see (save for "do nothing and let things sort themselves somehow"):
1. Change Ruby's implementation so public methods would really belong to `Object`. Actually, I don't believe anybody would agree to experiment on this scale, so just listing it here for completeness.
2. Just remove the RDoc hack; all methods would belong to `Kernel`, and maybe some introductory free-form text will instruct that they are different. **Pro:** Easy to do. **Contra:** The `Kernel` docs would be super-confusing.
3. Continue to maintain the hack in RDoc and extend it to `kernel.rb` (so methods like `#clone` and `#frozen?` would be still in `Object`). **Pro:** Relatively easy to do, will maintain structure many people used to. **Contra:** This is still a lie, methods belong to `Kernel`, not `Object`.
4. Adjust RDoc to a) be able to separately list **public** and **private** methods in two different lists, and add intro for `Kernel` explaining how to treat those. **Pro:** Probably the best correspondence to reality? **Contra:** Not sure how easy it is to change RDoc this way; and other renderers (like ruby-doc.com and rubyapi.org) would need to adjust themselves.

So far, (4) looks the most reasonable (if (1) is 100% impossible, that is!)



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