[#105104] [Ruby master Bug#18141] Marshal load with proc yield strings before they are fully initialized — "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18141 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

10 messages 2021/09/01

[#105114] [Ruby master Feature#18143] Add a new method to change GC.stress only in the given block such as GC.with_stress(flag) {...} — "kou (Kouhei Sutou)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18143 has been reported by kou (Kouhei Sutou).

8 messages 2021/09/02

[#105180] [Ruby master Bug#18156] 3.0.2 configuration checks by default for C++ compiler instead of C? — "vo.x (Vit Ondruch)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18156 has been reported by vo.x (Vit Ondruch).

11 messages 2021/09/08

[#105191] [Ruby master Bug#18159] Integrate functionality of dead_end gem into Ruby — duerst <noreply@...>

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37 messages 2021/09/11

[#105269] [Ruby master Bug#18169] Local copies of gemified libraries are being released out of sync with their gems — "headius (Charles Nutter)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18169 has been reported by headius (Charles Nutter).

15 messages 2021/09/15

[#105276] [Ruby master Bug#18170] Exception#inspect should not include newlines — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18170 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

29 messages 2021/09/16

[#105310] [Ruby master Misc#18174] DevelopersMeeting20211021Japan — "mame (Yusuke Endoh)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18174 has been reported by mame (Yusuke Endoh).

14 messages 2021/09/16

[#105313] [Ruby master Misc#18175] Propose Jean Boussier (@byroot) as a core committer — "tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18175 has been reported by tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson).

11 messages 2021/09/16

[#105354] [Ruby master Feature#18181] Introduce Enumerable#min_with_value, max_with_value, and minmax_with_value — "kyanagi (Kouhei Yanagita)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18181 has been reported by kyanagi (Kouhei Yanagita).

16 messages 2021/09/20

[#105361] [Ruby master Feature#18183] make SecureRandom.choose public — "olleicua (Antha Auciello)" <noreply@...>

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17 messages 2021/09/21

[#105377] [Ruby master Bug#18187] Float#clamp() returns ArgumentError (comparison of Float with 1 failed) — "SouravGoswami (Sourav Goswami)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18187 has been reported by SouravGoswami (Sourav Goswami).

7 messages 2021/09/22

[#105391] [Ruby master Bug#18189] `rb_cString` can be NULL during `Init_Object` — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18189 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

9 messages 2021/09/23

[#105428] [Ruby master Bug#18194] No easy way to format exception messages per thread/fiber scheduler context. — "ioquatix (Samuel Williams)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18194 has been reported by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).

16 messages 2021/09/26

[#105450] [Ruby master Feature#18228] Add a `timeout` option to `IO.copy_stream` — "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18228 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

11 messages 2021/09/27

[#105452] [Ruby master Feature#18229] Proposal to merge YJIT — "maximecb (Maxime Chevalier-Boisvert)" <noreply@...>

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[#105500] [Ruby master Feature#18231] `RubyVM.keep_script_lines` — "ko1 (Koichi Sasada)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18231 has been reported by ko1 (Koichi Sasada).

19 messages 2021/09/30

[#105504] [Ruby master Bug#18232] Ractor.make_shareable is broken in code loaded with RubyVM::InstructionSequence.load_from_binary — "byroot (Jean Boussier)" <noreply@...>

Issue #18232 has been reported by byroot (Jean Boussier).

7 messages 2021/09/30

[ruby-core:105389] [Ruby master Feature#18035] Introduce general model/semantic for immutable by default.

From: "ioquatix (Samuel Williams)" <noreply@...>
Date: 2021-09-22 23:39:30 UTC
List: ruby-core #105389
Issue #18035 has been updated by ioquatix (Samuel Williams).


Maybe we can collect use cases where such an approach makes sense.

@ko1 changed `Process::Status` to be frozen by default. What is the logic? What is the problem we are trying to solve by doing this? Is it to make things sharable by Ractor?

@eregon asserted that we should make as many of the core classes frozen by default. What's the advantage of this?

@jeremyevans0 your general model makes sense to me and I admire your approach to freezing the runtime. Can you explain where the performance advantages come from? Also:

> and freeze objects inside #initialize to have all instances be frozen

Doesn't this break sub-classes that perform mutable initialisation?

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Feature #18035: Introduce general model/semantic for immutable by default.
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18035#change-93802

* Author: ioquatix (Samuel Williams)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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It would be good to establish some rules around mutability, immutability, frozen, and deep frozen in Ruby.

I see time and time again, incorrect assumptions about how this works in production code. Constants that aren't really constant, people using `#freeze` incorrectly, etc.

I don't have any particular preference but:

- We should establish consistent patterns where possible, e.g.
  - Objects created by `new` are mutable.
  - Objects created by literal are immutable.

We have problems with how `freeze` works on composite data types, e.g. `Hash#freeze` does not impact children keys/values, same for Array. Do we need to introduce `freeze(true)` or `#deep_freeze` or some other method?

Because of this, frozen does not necessarily correspond to immutable. This is an issue which causes real world problems.

I also propose to codify this where possible, in terms of "this class of object is immutable" should be enforced by the language/runtime, e.g.


```ruby
module Immutable
  def new(...)
    super.freeze
  end
end

class MyImmutableObject
  extend Immutable

  def initialize(x)
    @x = x
  end
  
  def freeze
    return self if frozen?
    
    @x.freeze
    
    super
  end
end

o = MyImmutableObject.new([1, 2, 3])
puts o.frozen?
```

Finally, this area has an impact to thread and fiber safe programming, so it is becoming more relevant and I believe that the current approach which is rather adhoc is insufficient.

I know that it's non-trivial to retrofit existing code, but maybe it can be done via magic comment, etc, which we already did for frozen string literals.



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