From: "jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans)" Date: 2021-09-22T21:55:31+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:105383] [Ruby master Feature#18035] Introduce general model/semantic for immutable by default. Issue #18035 has been updated by jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans). tenderlovemaking (Aaron Patterson) wrote in #note-12: > jeremyevans0 (Jeremy Evans) wrote in #note-11: > > @maciej.mensfeld alluded to this already, but one thing to consider is that no object in Ruby is truly immutable unless all entries in `object.singleton_class.ancestors` are also frozen/immutable. > > Are they not? It seems like for Arrays they are (I haven't checked other types), so maybe there's some precedent: > > ```ruby > x = [1, 2, 3].freeze > > Mod = Module.new { def foo; end } > > begin > x.extend(Mod) > rescue FrozenError > puts "can't extend" > end > > begin > def x.foo; end > rescue FrozenError > puts "can't def" > end > > begin > y = x.singleton_class > def y.foo; end > rescue FrozenError > puts "can't def singleton" > end > ``` Apologies for not being more clear. Freezing an object freezes the object's singleton class. However, it doesn't freeze the other ancestors in `singleton_class.ancestors`: ```ruby c = Class.new(Array) a = c.new a << 1 a.first # => 1 c.define_method(:first){0} a.first # => 0 ``` As this shows, an instance of a class is not immutable unless its class and all other ancestors of the singleton class are immutable. ---------------------------------------- Feature #18035: Introduce general model/semantic for immutable by default. https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/18035#change-93797 * Author: ioquatix (Samuel Williams) * Status: Open * Priority: Normal ---------------------------------------- It would be good to establish some rules around mutability, immutability, frozen, and deep frozen in Ruby. I see time and time again, incorrect assumptions about how this works in production code. Constants that aren't really constant, people using `#freeze` incorrectly, etc. I don't have any particular preference but: - We should establish consistent patterns where possible, e.g. - Objects created by `new` are mutable. - Objects created by literal are immutable. We have problems with how `freeze` works on composite data types, e.g. `Hash#freeze` does not impact children keys/values, same for Array. Do we need to introduce `freeze(true)` or `#deep_freeze` or some other method? Because of this, frozen does not necessarily correspond to immutable. This is an issue which causes real world problems. I also propose to codify this where possible, in terms of "this class of object is immutable" should be enforced by the language/runtime, e.g. ```ruby module Immutable def new(...) super.freeze end end class MyImmutableObject extend Immutable def initialize(x) @x = x end def freeze return self if frozen? @x.freeze super end end o = MyImmutableObject.new([1, 2, 3]) puts o.frozen? ``` Finally, this area has an impact to thread and fiber safe programming, so it is becoming more relevant and I believe that the current approach which is rather adhoc is insufficient. I know that it's non-trivial to retrofit existing code, but maybe it can be done via magic comment, etc, which we already did for frozen string literals. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: