From: deivid.rodriguez@... Date: 2021-05-28T09:55:47+00:00 Subject: [ruby-core:104079] [Ruby master Misc#16778] Should we stop vendoring default gems code? Issue #16778 has been updated by deivid (David Rodr�guez). > Are you talking about the code duplication of rubygems and bundler? This ticket is about default gems, isn't it? Yes, I'm making a general case against maintaining the same code at two different places, but as I worded this issue, it would only apply to bundler (a default gem) but not to rubygems. So I'll stick to talking about bundler and other default gems in this ticket :+1: > Because @hsbt is promoting default gems to bundled gems step by step (for example, #17873), I think this issue is being solved gradually. Converting default gems to bundled gems indeed solves the issue. But I assume there are many gems that you want always available with any ruby installation, regardless of whether you use gems or not. Those default gems can't be migrated to bundled gems, so it can't be fixed that way. > Do you seriously want to separete rubygems/bundler code base from ruby/ruby? It is much harder than default gems because they are integrated to the ruby core. Anyway I believe that it is a different topic from this ticket. As per above, this ticket applies to bundler since it's a default gem. My proposal is that bundler (and other default gems code) is not kept source controlled in the ruby/ruby repository, yeah. That the code of each default gem is developed on each upstream repository, removing the need for any synchronization. ---------------------------------------- Misc #16778: Should we stop vendoring default gems code? https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/16778#change-92253 * Author: deivid (David Rodr�guez) * Status: Rejected * Priority: Normal * Assignee: hsbt (Hiroshi SHIBATA) ---------------------------------------- Currently ruby-core vendors all the code in default gems, and runs the tests for each of them. Also, ruby-core continuously updates the vendored code of default gems to sync with the upstream repos. That's overhead work, not only from syncronizing the code itself, but it also requires perfect syncronization of releases to avoid including versions of default gems that are different from released versions. Also, this causes confusion for contributors because the code lives "duplicated" in two different places. Some times contributors will open a PR in the ruby-core repo, only to find out that they need to go to the upstream repo and contribute it in there. And this rule is not even always followed and sometimes ruby-core contributors apply patches to the vendored code directly (many times to fix test-only issues inherent to the different structure of the core repository). These patches then need to be contributed back to the upstream repo. I believe that all of that kind of defeats the point of "gemification" of the standard library. Once some ruby code its gemified, it should be the new upstream's responsability to make sure the code works and it's properly tested, and ruby-core should be free'd from that responsability. Maybe ruby-core could do something along the following lines: * Remove all the vendored code from default gems. * When this code is needed for internal tests, manage it as a development dependency, clone it as necessary on non source controlled locations, and use it from there. * Maybe a file similar to `gems/bundled_gems` can be added for default gems indicating their versions and upstream repos, to ease things. * Upon `make install`, clone the proper version of each default library and get it installed in the default $LOAD_PATH. * Maybe add some bare high level CI checks to ensure that all default libraries can be properly required after `make install`, and that their executables (if they include any) can also be run. This should bring several benefits to the development process: * No more duplicated code. * No more syncronization from upstream to ruby-core. * No more syncronization from ruby-core to upstream. * No more confusion around the canonical place to contribute. * No more complexities derived from the different organization of the code depending on whether it lives in ruby-core or outside. I believe jruby already does something like this so it'd be interesting to get some input from them. If this is a direction the ruby-core team would like to take, I'm happy to help @hsbt with small steps towards slowly approaching to this high level goal. -- https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/ Unsubscribe: