[#101981] [Ruby master Bug#17519] set_visibility fails when a prepended module and a refinement both exist — dbfeldman@...

Issue #17519 has been reported by fledman (David Feldman).

12 messages 2021/01/08

[#102003] [Ruby master Bug#17527] rb_io_wait_readable/writable with scheduler don't check errno — julien@...

Issue #17527 has been reported by ysbaddaden (Julien Portalier).

13 messages 2021/01/11

[#102065] [Ruby master Bug#17536] Segfault in `CFUNC :define_method` — v.ondruch@...

Issue #17536 has been reported by vo.x (Vit Ondruch).

13 messages 2021/01/13

[#102083] [Ruby master Bug#17540] A segfault due to Clang/LLVM optimization on 32-bit ARM Linux — xtkoba+ruby@...

Issue #17540 has been reported by xtkoba (Tee KOBAYASHI).

12 messages 2021/01/14

[#102102] [Ruby master Bug#17543] Ractor isolation broken by `self` in shareable proc — marcandre-ruby-core@...

Issue #17543 has been reported by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).

14 messages 2021/01/15

[#102118] [Ruby master Feature#17548] Need simple way to include symlink directories in Dir.glob — keithrbennett@...

Issue #17548 has been reported by keithrbennett (Keith Bennett).

8 messages 2021/01/17

[#102158] [Ruby master Bug#17560] Does `Module#ruby2_keywords` return `nil` or `self`? — nobu@...

Issue #17560 has been reported by nobu (Nobuyoshi Nakada).

9 messages 2021/01/19

[#102163] [Ruby master Bug#17561] The timeout option for Addrinfo.getaddrinfo is not reliable on Ruby 2.7.2 — sean@...

Issue #17561 has been reported by smcgivern (Sean McGivern).

8 messages 2021/01/19

[#102249] [Ruby master Bug#17583] Segfault on large stack(RUBY_THREAD_VM_STACK_SIZE) — yoshiokatsuneo@...

Issue #17583 has been reported by yoshiokatsuneo (Tsuneo Yoshioka).

12 messages 2021/01/26

[#102256] [Ruby master Bug#17585] DWAR5 support? — v.ondruch@...

Issue #17585 has been reported by vo.x (Vit Ondruch).

19 messages 2021/01/26

[#102301] [Ruby master Bug#17591] Test frameworks and REPLs do not show deprecation warnings by default — eregontp@...

Issue #17591 has been reported by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

14 messages 2021/01/29

[#102305] [Ruby master Feature#17592] Ractor should allowing reading shareable class instance variables — marcandre-ruby-core@...

Issue #17592 has been reported by marcandre (Marc-Andre Lafortune).

25 messages 2021/01/29

[ruby-core:102278] [Ruby master Feature#15752] A dedicated module for experimental features

From: eregontp@...
Date: 2021-01-28 21:01:51 UTC
List: ruby-core #102278
Issue #15752 has been updated by Eregon (Benoit Daloze).

Status changed from Closed to Open

See https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/17500#note-8

I think it is very clear MRI (and other Ruby implementations as well) need a place to put new experimental APIs.

Right now, RubyVM is used for new experimental APIs, but that's unclear for users, and over time it won't be considered experimental or MRI-specific at all (see linked comment).
`RubyVM` can already not be considered experimental anymore, because e.g., `RubyVM::InstructionSequence` and `RubyVM::AbstractSyntaxTree` are used in gems.

So, how about adding an `Experimental` or `ExperimentalFeatures` module, and add new experimental APIs there, *instead* of in RubyVM?

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Feature #15752: A dedicated module for experimental features
https://bugs.ruby-lang.org/issues/15752#change-90131

* Author: Eregon (Benoit Daloze)
* Status: Open
* Priority: Normal
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I believe we should introduce a module for experimental features portable across Ruby implementations.

An example of such a portable experimental feature is `RubyVM.resolve_feature_path`.
This feature has nothing MRI specific in it, it is a part of basic `require` functionality.
In the future, I would think more experimental features will be introduced, and I think `RubyVM` is not a good place for it.

Currently, `RubyVM` is sometimes used for experimental features, but I believe `RubyVM` should be defined only on MRI and contain only MRI-specific features.
This means it is *impossible* for other implementations such as JRuby and TruffleRuby to define `resolve_feature_path` (even though it's trivial and might be useful for some users),
and keeping `RubyVM` not defined for clearly marking MRI specific features are not available.

This is a problem that will only gets worse as portable experimental features are added to `RubyVM`.
Here is one example of adding an experimental feature but unfortunately there is no common place between Ruby implementations to add it:
https://github.com/jruby/jruby/issues/5206

If other implementations defined `RubyVM`, then only parts of it would be portable and other parts would be MRI specific,
which would be very confusing to both users and Ruby implementers.

Also, `RubyVM` doesn't really indicate by its name that it contains experimental features.

So I propose the obvious name `ExperimentalFeatures`.

I think such a long name is unlikely to clash with existing Object constants, is very clear,
and marks that any usage of it is by definition using not stable APIs that might be removed or changed.

In combination with #15743, this would mean we can very clearly see what kind of feature it is due to explicit naming:

* `ExperimentalFeatures.resolve_feature_path` is a portable experimental feature, which can be supported on other Ruby implementations too.
* `CRuby::InstructionSequence` is a CRuby/MRI-specific feature, which will only be supported on MRI.

OTOH, the `RubyVM` name doesn't indicate this important difference, and doesn't even indicate the features under it might experimental or not portable.

My main motivation here, is allowing other Ruby implementations to support some of these portable experimental features.
There is no reason for only MRI to be able to support code using portable experimental features.

cc @mame @headius



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